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by saint701Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:26 pm Forum: Spiritual Warfare, Topic: Ghost Story For Those Desiring Meat! Replies: 2Views: 1169
Ghost Story For Those Desiring Meat!
by saint701 » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:15 pm
Hello Sonderful, Wonderful, Cool Brothers and Sisters in Christ Jesus!
Blessings!
This is Eeyore, you know, that ol' deadpanning donkey in A.A. Milne's book, Winnie the Pooh. Many of us assume the nature of this character when a parent gives us a task to do that we know is going to be a lot of work. I mean, we are so excited about it, we compare the task to picking rocks out of a new field that is about to plowed for harvest. Oh, joy!
We know when our task is finished our knuckles are going to bloody and bleeding, the tips of our fingernails cracked and calloused. Our hands will be full of blisters, and our back will ache.
The title above is fitting, as I have a "Christian Ghost Story" to tell. The opening metaphor is accurate, as this is the toughest thing I have ever had to do; And the attending simile a parable, as this is about the Kingdom of Heaven.
(Just a note about eating meat. Navajo men like the coarsest, grizzliest meat to eat they can find because they think it gives them more strength to endure a hard day's work. I think the following story is going to be just exactly that for you.)
So you all get your ol' armor on now as I walk you through the real "Scary Oak Woods" of New Covenant Spiritual Warfare. You are going to get some incredible new insights into questions we all have had for a long time about just how precarious our position in Christ Jesus can be if we are not careful.
First of all, it is amazing to me that I am alive and able to relate the events of the following story to you. I could just as easily be burning in hell. If not for Jesus, of course, I would be. But, his words are true. As Christians we get to enjoy the promise that when the rain descends, the flood comes, and the wind blows, our house will stand because it is built upon a rock.
Since I am still standing, I get to glorify Jesus with my story.
Are you ready???
Heavenly Father, we praise you today, we worship you, we give you glory. Father, we love and adore you. Thank you so very, very, much, for love and attention to all of our needs. We praise your Holy Name.
Lord, we just come before you in the mighty name of Jesus to ask your blessing on this message in all your wondrous ways and abilities, so that all people including all that call upon the name of the Lord that are spending all of their time eating and drinking and giving in marriage will have their eyes opened in a new and greater and more significant way than ever before to the perils that lie in wait in the darkness they are sitting in at this time. And we ask you to bless this message to the body of Christ Jesus so that the body of Christ Jesus will receive increase in knowledge and understanding of spiritual warfare, that this message impress upon the minds and hearts of all the people the intense struggle we face and the fierceness of the battle.
I am writing this in support of Lizzie's post on Spiritual Warfare dated 9/03/09. Wow! What an awesome teaching Lizzie! One particular passage you quoted from Isaiah really jumped out at me because I have experienced something similar. I say similar because the context of my story is somewhat different, but we are all subject to chastisement on our love son-ship journey, and some of us have to suffer through the fiery trial of the devil. Interestingly enough, I Peter 4:12-13 wasn't discussed in your presentation, and I am delighted to have experience which will shed light on the subject.
Isaiah 4:4
When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.
1Pe 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
1Pe 4:13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God, and whosoever falls upon Him shall be broken.
The demon that attacked me December, 1991 did not have possession in mind, it had murder. I was working out a teaching on Matthew 24 that I thought was very important news to the body of Christ about the context of our preaching of the gospel to all the world. I didn't have the armor on and I wasn't watching, just working my little exposition of Matthew 24:13-14.
Little did I know that I was being scrutinized by a nasty demon named all hell. I will be honest with you, as a born again, spirit filled Christian, I was 13 years old. I had some experience exercising my senses to discern good and evil, but did not have the gift itself. I digress, but I was also listening to the good teaching of a TV minister. I went to bed. I began having weird, (i before e except after w as in weird), experiences and did not discern the nature of them. Dumb ol' Dennis!
I thought perhaps the weird stuff was in the context of what the Lord was bringing through the messages of that TV minister, so I entertained the weirdness. I was a heavy smoker at the time, and thought perhaps an anointing was present through which I might be delivered from tobacco use. I submitted it to the weirdness, and yielded up the cigarettes. I thought perhaps I had been delivered.
But, the next morning I got up, and discovered I that same ol' craving for a cigarette was as strong as ever, shrugged my shoulders and lit one up.
That demon hit me! I was up stairs near the balcony, and that darn thing started moving me physically toward it. It was going to throw me off. I grabbed hold of the dresser as I passed by it and held on for dear life.
Next thing I knew fire hit the top of my head and began raging down through me to the bottom of my gut. I have never been so scared in all my life. Fear rolled all over me, my God it was awful. That thing was just lappin' every single iota of spiritual everything out of me, and then it began to literally tear my soul apart.
I couldn't think, couldn't think of any scriptures. It perverted them all in my thinking. I had bought the proverbial spiritual bullet of damnation, the unpardonable sin most surely belonged to me. That is how all hell made it seem to me, and because that is most assuredly what I was experiencing, I began to buy into it which made the fiery torment increase. I couldn't even conclude that my faith was on trial, but that is exactly what was going on...wasn't enough for me just to experience diverse temptations, trials and testings. Nosiree! I got the fiery trial of the devil!
You might ask. "Well, where in the world was the Lord Jesus when you were going through all this???? He was there. When that demon first hit me it knocked me off the high perch over the center of my personality that I was sittin' on, and I fell into His arms. The problem was, He elected to be there in His still, small voice. When He caught me, He said. "Now, you are saved!" Nothing changed in what I was experiencing or in my understanding. I was on my own to sink or swim.
This went on for 20 some odd days. There was no end to the burning hell that raged in my body from the crown of my head to the bottom of my gut..I hadn't had a cigarette since the episode began. It didn't make any difference either. So, in addition to all hell, I was a nervous wreck..couldn't sleep..couldn't eat.
Then, to make matters worse..that's right, worse..., I turned the tv off in my children's bedroom late one night and it turned itself back on!!! There on the screen was a message. "YOU HAVE UNTIL THE 27TH." It was the 24th of December. I decided at that point I would just have the faith to start smoking again...
And oh how I did smoke! I smoked and smoked and smoked and smoked until I woke up on the morning of the 28th still here. That helped a little. I started searching on the inside for ground to stand on. I searched and I searched for a reason to continue living through what I had been experiencing for 28 days.
And do you know what I found down in there? I found that I loved the Lord. I found that I loved His Word. I found that I loved my family. That was the key. From that moment on I began to recover myself from the snare of the wicked one.
As the scripture says, if your leg gets turned out of the way, rather let it be healed. Scripture also says if you bear a little fruit, the Father cuts you back so you can bear more. Well, I was cut back to the core. But now I am one bulgin' super good fruit producin' mega burnin' bush glowin' gloryifyin' God kind of Man O' God like you ain't ever seen before!!!
Over the course of the past 3 years the Lord has been in the warfare with me, helping and strengthening me in battles with ever increasing anointing from the inside out. After one I fought over in Bahrain a couple of years ago, he said. "It ain't a light thing to hold the fort on your own!"
Well, you all, we have to grow up in the battles until we are able to do just that, all of us. It's that day.
Blessings!
Love, In Christ Jesus, Saint701
It is most certainly far better to die in faith believing, than it is to live in unbelief.
saint701 Posts: 530Location: St. Louis, MOMarital Status: Waiting on God
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by Mackenaw » Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:08 pm
Hello Saint701
God bless you this day.
Right after reading your post, I realized I had a white-knuckle grip on my computer mouse -- I'm surprised it did not squeak.
Wow. Wow! WOW!!!
I'm glad that The Lord brought you through and you have maintained to stay close to Him.
Thank you, Saint, for sharing. I know I have a lot of questions and comments, but right at this moment I can't seem to put them to type.
God bless and keep you, Saint701.
Love,
Mack
Mackenaw Posts: 1807Location: NYMarital Status: Married
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That's ok Mac..
by saint701 » Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:26 pm
Hi Mac and All,
Blessings!
I understand what it is like to have lots to say, but be absolutely speechless. Has taken me almost 20 years to grow strong enough in the Lord for Him to let me share it.
Blessings!
L,ICJ,Den
It is most certainly far better to die in faith believing, than it is to live in unbelief.
Ghost Story For Those Desiring Meat!
by saint701 » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:15 pm
Hello Sonderful, Wonderful, Cool Brothers and Sisters in Christ Jesus!
Blessings!
This is Eeyore, you know, that ol' deadpanning donkey in A.A. Milne's book, Winnie the Pooh. Many of us assume the nature of this character when a parent gives us a task to do that we know is going to be a lot of work. I mean, we are so excited about it, we compare the task to picking rocks out of a new field that is about to plowed for harvest. Oh, joy!
We know when our task is finished our knuckles are going to bloody and bleeding, the tips of our fingernails cracked and calloused. Our hands will be full of blisters, and our back will ache.
The title above is fitting, as I have a "Christian Ghost Story" to tell. The opening metaphor is accurate, as this is the toughest thing I have ever had to do; And the attending simile a parable, as this is about the Kingdom of Heaven.
(Just a note about eating meat. Navajo men like the coarsest, grizzliest meat to eat they can find because they think it gives them more strength to endure a hard day's work. I think the following story is going to be just exactly that for you.)
So you all get your ol' armor on now as I walk you through the real "Scary Oak Woods" of New Covenant Spiritual Warfare. You are going to get some incredible new insights into questions we all have had for a long time about just how precarious our position in Christ Jesus can be if we are not careful.
First of all, it is amazing to me that I am alive and able to relate the events of the following story to you. I could just as easily be burning in hell. If not for Jesus, of course, I would be. But, his words are true. As Christians we get to enjoy the promise that when the rain descends, the flood comes, and the wind blows, our house will stand because it is built upon a rock.
Since I am still standing, I get to glorify Jesus with my story.
Are you ready???
Heavenly Father, we praise you today, we worship you, we give you glory. Father, we love and adore you. Thank you so very, very, much, for love and attention to all of our needs. We praise your Holy Name.
Lord, we just come before you in the mighty name of Jesus to ask your blessing on this message in all your wondrous ways and abilities, so that all people including all that call upon the name of the Lord that are spending all of their time eating and drinking and giving in marriage will have their eyes opened in a new and greater and more significant way than ever before to the perils that lie in wait in the darkness they are sitting in at this time. And we ask you to bless this message to the body of Christ Jesus so that the body of Christ Jesus will receive increase in knowledge and understanding of spiritual warfare, that this message impress upon the minds and hearts of all the people the intense struggle we face and the fierceness of the battle.
I am writing this in support of Lizzie's post on Spiritual Warfare dated 9/03/09. Wow! What an awesome teaching Lizzie! One particular passage you quoted from Isaiah really jumped out at me because I have experienced something similar. I say similar because the context of my story is somewhat different, but we are all subject to chastisement on our love son-ship journey, and some of us have to suffer through the fiery trial of the devil. Interestingly enough, I Peter 4:12-13 wasn't discussed in your presentation, and I am delighted to have experience which will shed light on the subject.
Isaiah 4:4
When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.
1Pe 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
1Pe 4:13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God, and whosoever falls upon Him shall be broken.
The demon that attacked me December, 1991 did not have possession in mind, it had murder. I was working out a teaching on Matthew 24 that I thought was very important news to the body of Christ about the context of our preaching of the gospel to all the world. I didn't have the armor on and I wasn't watching, just working my little exposition of Matthew 24:13-14.
Little did I know that I was being scrutinized by a nasty demon named all hell. I will be honest with you, as a born again, spirit filled Christian, I was 13 years old. I had some experience exercising my senses to discern good and evil, but did not have the gift itself. I digress, but I was also listening to the good teaching of a TV minister. I went to bed. I began having weird, (i before e except after w as in weird), experiences and did not discern the nature of them. Dumb ol' Dennis!
I thought perhaps the weird stuff was in the context of what the Lord was bringing through the messages of that TV minister, so I entertained the weirdness. I was a heavy smoker at the time, and thought perhaps an anointing was present through which I might be delivered from tobacco use. I submitted it to the weirdness, and yielded up the cigarettes. I thought perhaps I had been delivered.
But, the next morning I got up, and discovered I that same ol' craving for a cigarette was as strong as ever, shrugged my shoulders and lit one up.
That demon hit me! I was up stairs near the balcony, and that darn thing started moving me physically toward it. It was going to throw me off. I grabbed hold of the dresser as I passed by it and held on for dear life.
Next thing I knew fire hit the top of my head and began raging down through me to the bottom of my gut. I have never been so scared in all my life. Fear rolled all over me, my God it was awful. That thing was just lappin' every single iota of spiritual everything out of me, and then it began to literally tear my soul apart.
I couldn't think, couldn't think of any scriptures. It perverted them all in my thinking. I had bought the proverbial spiritual bullet of damnation, the unpardonable sin most surely belonged to me. That is how all hell made it seem to me, and because that is most assuredly what I was experiencing, I began to buy into it which made the fiery torment increase. I couldn't even conclude that my faith was on trial, but that is exactly what was going on...wasn't enough for me just to experience diverse temptations, trials and testings. Nosiree! I got the fiery trial of the devil!
You might ask. "Well, where in the world was the Lord Jesus when you were going through all this???? He was there. When that demon first hit me it knocked me off the high perch over the center of my personality that I was sittin' on, and I fell into His arms. The problem was, He elected to be there in His still, small voice. When He caught me, He said. "Now, you are saved!" Nothing changed in what I was experiencing or in my understanding. I was on my own to sink or swim.
This went on for 20 some odd days. There was no end to the burning hell that raged in my body from the crown of my head to the bottom of my gut..I hadn't had a cigarette since the episode began. It didn't make any difference either. So, in addition to all hell, I was a nervous wreck..couldn't sleep..couldn't eat.
Then, to make matters worse..that's right, worse..., I turned the tv off in my children's bedroom late one night and it turned itself back on!!! There on the screen was a message. "YOU HAVE UNTIL THE 27TH." It was the 24th of December. I decided at that point I would just have the faith to start smoking again...
And oh how I did smoke! I smoked and smoked and smoked and smoked until I woke up on the morning of the 28th still here. That helped a little. I started searching on the inside for ground to stand on. I searched and I searched for a reason to continue living through what I had been experiencing for 28 days.
And do you know what I found down in there? I found that I loved the Lord. I found that I loved His Word. I found that I loved my family. That was the key. From that moment on I began to recover myself from the snare of the wicked one.
As the scripture says, if your leg gets turned out of the way, rather let it be healed. Scripture also says if you bear a little fruit, the Father cuts you back so you can bear more. Well, I was cut back to the core. But now I am one bulgin' super good fruit producin' mega burnin' bush glowin' gloryifyin' God kind of Man O' God like you ain't ever seen before!!!
Over the course of the past 3 years the Lord has been in the warfare with me, helping and strengthening me in battles with ever increasing anointing from the inside out. After one I fought over in Bahrain a couple of years ago, he said. "It ain't a light thing to hold the fort on your own!"
Well, you all, we have to grow up in the battles until we are able to do just that, all of us. It's that day.
Blessings!
Love, In Christ Jesus, Saint701
It is most certainly far better to die in faith believing, than it is to live in unbelief.
saint701 Posts: 530Location: St. Louis, MOMarital Status: Waiting on God
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by Mackenaw » Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:08 pm
Hello Saint701
God bless you this day.
Right after reading your post, I realized I had a white-knuckle grip on my computer mouse -- I'm surprised it did not squeak.
Wow. Wow! WOW!!!
I'm glad that The Lord brought you through and you have maintained to stay close to Him.
Thank you, Saint, for sharing. I know I have a lot of questions and comments, but right at this moment I can't seem to put them to type.
God bless and keep you, Saint701.
Love,
Mack
Mackenaw Posts: 1807Location: NYMarital Status: Married
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That's ok Mac..
by saint701 » Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:26 pm
Hi Mac and All,
Blessings!
I understand what it is like to have lots to say, but be absolutely speechless. Has taken me almost 20 years to grow strong enough in the Lord for Him to let me share it.
Blessings!
L,ICJ,Den
It is most certainly far better to die in faith believing, than it is to live in unbelief.
It is most certainly far better to die in faith believing, than it is to live in unbelief.
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Re: Number Two
Dennis,
You have always been a kindred soul dear brother... but having the opportunity to read this has strengthened that bond in Him.
Thank you, for sharing it this day. May all whom the Lord intends to read it, be as blessed by His presence in your sharing as I was, His will be done.
In His service always,
Peace n Luv in Christ,
Lani
You have always been a kindred soul dear brother... but having the opportunity to read this has strengthened that bond in Him.
Thank you, for sharing it this day. May all whom the Lord intends to read it, be as blessed by His presence in your sharing as I was, His will be done.
In His service always,
Peace n Luv in Christ,
Lani
"May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace." (Romans 15:13
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Re: Number Two
Hi Precious Sister Lani,
Thanks for giving glory to the Lord by finding His presence in the work of suffering He gave me to do. I am thankful that He was with me in fire. Otherwise my fall would have been great without hope of recovery. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Living God, but having one's house built on a rock assures the house will stand even though some repairs may be needed. The fiery trial presented above wasn't the last attack like that I had to endure. Those attacks continued all the way up until 2009, covering the years 1992 and the 16 years that followed.
The Lord's purpose in allowing them was to teach me how to fight principalities, and hold the fort on my own. Once I learned to overcome on my own, then He took the battle over for me, the fire of God fighting the fire of he that is in the world. At the end I got to experience the reality that greater is He that is in us is greater than he that is in the world. Hell is no match for the our Lord who is a consuming fire. On one side we ourselves are not consumed by our God who is a consuming fire, but rather we become as the burning bush that is not consumed. On the devil's side it is the sting of death that we must endure, but only until the time our Lord swallows up that death into our victory...Oh death where is thy sting?
The depth of our suffering with our Lord justifies the depth of grace He shows us. All I can say is that I was greatly humbled by those fiery trials, but the trials were needed so our Lord could show all that will read and listen that our salvation is His work, that the Words of His through our Lord and the Epistles were truth, and had their basis in the experience of the apostels which brought them wisdom, knowledge and understanding. Some of us must endure such to experience and know the great hope of our calling and the exceeding greatness of God's power to those of us that believe.
Thanks for the Love Sister Lani, it is greatly appreciated and warmly received. You know I love you too, as well as all C.O. and those to come...In Christ Jesus, Saint701.
Thanks for giving glory to the Lord by finding His presence in the work of suffering He gave me to do. I am thankful that He was with me in fire. Otherwise my fall would have been great without hope of recovery. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Living God, but having one's house built on a rock assures the house will stand even though some repairs may be needed. The fiery trial presented above wasn't the last attack like that I had to endure. Those attacks continued all the way up until 2009, covering the years 1992 and the 16 years that followed.
The Lord's purpose in allowing them was to teach me how to fight principalities, and hold the fort on my own. Once I learned to overcome on my own, then He took the battle over for me, the fire of God fighting the fire of he that is in the world. At the end I got to experience the reality that greater is He that is in us is greater than he that is in the world. Hell is no match for the our Lord who is a consuming fire. On one side we ourselves are not consumed by our God who is a consuming fire, but rather we become as the burning bush that is not consumed. On the devil's side it is the sting of death that we must endure, but only until the time our Lord swallows up that death into our victory...Oh death where is thy sting?
The depth of our suffering with our Lord justifies the depth of grace He shows us. All I can say is that I was greatly humbled by those fiery trials, but the trials were needed so our Lord could show all that will read and listen that our salvation is His work, that the Words of His through our Lord and the Epistles were truth, and had their basis in the experience of the apostels which brought them wisdom, knowledge and understanding. Some of us must endure such to experience and know the great hope of our calling and the exceeding greatness of God's power to those of us that believe.
Thanks for the Love Sister Lani, it is greatly appreciated and warmly received. You know I love you too, as well as all C.O. and those to come...In Christ Jesus, Saint701.
It is most certainly far better to die in faith believing, than it is to live in unbelief.
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