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Well i;m not feeling very well right now i m looking for more understanding to the lord but it seems what i think is the right way others may not see the same.i'm a new comer to christianity and i'm trying so hard to change my old ways but things and people aren't making that easy for me.i'm angry and having a hard time forgiving people who have done me wrong .i read that Jesus went through some of things i did and i say to myself he went through more than me so who am i to even complain or compare.my heart wants so bad to walk in faith and my mind wants me to be in the world its like a war in my head and i don't wanna be in the world no more it serves me no purpose but hurt ,deceit,pain .depression anger all of the negatives it creates God is love so I thought his followers will love him the way i do and accept me for me as he would but sadly i notice some christian's not acting Godly and doing worldly things and it just makes me get more discouraged. when i think of a christian i think of a smiling ,caring non-judgmental giving godly person someone who will just hug u and accept u as would Jesus sadly i don't see that too much.its easy to go to church and its easy for people to cry out and say they love Jesus just to go with the flow and really they don't care about anything but themselves God knows i'm far from perfect but i want to be Christ like and i want positive spiritual people around me i just feel sometimes alone well anyway just sharing
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heavenbound777 - Posts: 2
- Location: newyork
- Marital Status: Single
Re: change
Hello heavenbound777,
Hope you feel better soon!
I pray He guides ya and keeps you as you seek His understanding.
you mentioned
Change is not an easy thing to do, by far. It takes prayer and we have to work hard to break old habits and tendencies. The more the Holy Spirit works in you the more He will gently prompt you in areas of your thoughts, behaviors, and life that with His help you can begin to change for His glory! \./ Hallelujah! Each individual and their walk with the Lord is precious and different from another. He is versatile like that. How do I know that? Because i see so many "differences" between me and my brothers and sisters abroad yet i see Him in each and everyone of them.
From my own experience I can admit (after searching within and taking a moral inventory) when I am angry I know that I am angry because something didnt go the way i thought it would, should, or liked it to turn out or to be. At that time Holy Spirit nudges me and reminds me that I cannot control others, outcomes, or situations to be the way i would like them to be. But instead i learned to trust Him and know that He is in control of it all and take my rightful place beside Him not above His plans or away from His plans. I know now that whatever comes my way i need to accept that it was meant to be there and that with His eyes I can take those lemons and make lemonaide out of them. In essense taking a seemingly "bad thing" (for it is our outlook that defines it as being bad not the situation itself) into a learning and growing experience that will bring us to a better understanding of others and Him as well as bring us in closer to Him as we begin to see how great His love realy is.
When i start to think of others as not making the mark in my eyes, i try to remember that they are human just as I am and we all have our hangups. we are all on a different part of our walk with the Lord. Through these situations i learn alot of patience and learn to look within first before i point at another. When i do so Holy Spirit shows me many areas i can work on within and reminds me to not fret just as He works in me, He works in all believers and Holy Spirit in His timing will nudge them IF there need be and according to HIS will, not mine. Again this is my experience and what I have learned from the Holy Spirit as i ran into these "situations" in my walk with him.
So with all of that put to the side
My name is Jill , if you have any questions i will be happy to give my prayerful replies but i always do my best to point you to the One with the Perfect answers He is an awesome Shepherd to all His sheep. I pray you make yourself comfortable and find yourself at home. I look forward to seeing you around and yes in chat as well
If i may i would like to suggest the counseling path here that is provided, i am one of the many miracles as a result of taking that path.
God bless and keep ya!
♥Jill
Hope you feel better soon!
I pray He guides ya and keeps you as you seek His understanding.
you mentioned
i'm trying so hard to change my old ways but things and people aren't making that easy for me.
Change is not an easy thing to do, by far. It takes prayer and we have to work hard to break old habits and tendencies. The more the Holy Spirit works in you the more He will gently prompt you in areas of your thoughts, behaviors, and life that with His help you can begin to change for His glory! \./ Hallelujah! Each individual and their walk with the Lord is precious and different from another. He is versatile like that. How do I know that? Because i see so many "differences" between me and my brothers and sisters abroad yet i see Him in each and everyone of them.
From my own experience I can admit (after searching within and taking a moral inventory) when I am angry I know that I am angry because something didnt go the way i thought it would, should, or liked it to turn out or to be. At that time Holy Spirit nudges me and reminds me that I cannot control others, outcomes, or situations to be the way i would like them to be. But instead i learned to trust Him and know that He is in control of it all and take my rightful place beside Him not above His plans or away from His plans. I know now that whatever comes my way i need to accept that it was meant to be there and that with His eyes I can take those lemons and make lemonaide out of them. In essense taking a seemingly "bad thing" (for it is our outlook that defines it as being bad not the situation itself) into a learning and growing experience that will bring us to a better understanding of others and Him as well as bring us in closer to Him as we begin to see how great His love realy is.
When i start to think of others as not making the mark in my eyes, i try to remember that they are human just as I am and we all have our hangups. we are all on a different part of our walk with the Lord. Through these situations i learn alot of patience and learn to look within first before i point at another. When i do so Holy Spirit shows me many areas i can work on within and reminds me to not fret just as He works in me, He works in all believers and Holy Spirit in His timing will nudge them IF there need be and according to HIS will, not mine. Again this is my experience and what I have learned from the Holy Spirit as i ran into these "situations" in my walk with him.
So with all of that put to the side
My name is Jill , if you have any questions i will be happy to give my prayerful replies but i always do my best to point you to the One with the Perfect answers He is an awesome Shepherd to all His sheep. I pray you make yourself comfortable and find yourself at home. I look forward to seeing you around and yes in chat as well
If i may i would like to suggest the counseling path here that is provided, i am one of the many miracles as a result of taking that path.
God bless and keep ya!
♥Jill
♥♥I strive to love others as Christ loves me... Ephesians 5:1 Be imitators of God therefore as dearly loved children and live a life of love...♥♥
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xxJILLxx - Posts: 1094
- Location: northeast ohio
- Marital Status: In A Relationship
Re: change
A car . It has one purpose and one purpose only ... to take me from point A to point B (and prefferably back to point A again ) , and that is all that is promised to me that a car will do ... that is , as an ALTERNATIVE WAY of using my own feet (probably because I am too lazy to walk) .
Now , I buy into the idea , and I say to myself , "Yep , that is what I am looking for ." and set out to get me one . ..... Uh OOOHHH .... "You mean I have to decide WHICH ONE ??? " .... First choice , too small .... second choice , too big ... third , too slow .... too fast ... "Ok , I'll tell you what I'll do" I say to myself ... " I'll make a description of the ultimate car that would fit my needs and wants and I'll go to the MANIFACTURER and have them make me one accordingly " .... After a a lot-longer-wait (its custome made you see?) and a lot more money out of my pocket I get my one-of-a-kind-fit-just-for-me gizmo ... PERFECT !!!
Two things .
All the other cars that pass me by are red , so , naturally , I would think my all-too-perfect-car is red as well right ? .... Unless of course , I'd step out of my perfect car , and look to see .... well , to my dismay , I find out that mine is white !!
Two . The very day that I bring my newly-found-fit-me-to-a-tee-bundle-of-comfort home , I get a flat tire ... oh nooooo !!
Talk of the town happens to be in the area of " Did you notice that ALL the other cars (the red ones) have no problems with their tires ... except , for the white ??? "
Do we go to Home Depot and buy a can of spray paint and stop by the Pep Boys on the way and get a Fix-a-Flat , or do we change the whole car ?
Acceptance is the answer to ALL of my problems today. When I am disturbed , it is because I find some person , place , thing , or situation - some fact of my life - unacceptibale to me , and I can find no serenity , or peace until I accept all these the way they are supposed to be at this moment . Nothing , absolutely NOTHING happens in God's world by mistake ...Unless I could accept life on life's terms (the way HE , not I ,wants it to be) , I could not be happy . I need to concentrate not so much on what needs to be changed in the world as on what needs to be changed in me and my attitudes .
When I concentrate on the problem , the problem gets bigger ... when I concentrate on the Solution ... The SOLUTION gets bigger .
luv ya
In Christ , our Lord
vahn
Now , I buy into the idea , and I say to myself , "Yep , that is what I am looking for ." and set out to get me one . ..... Uh OOOHHH .... "You mean I have to decide WHICH ONE ??? " .... First choice , too small .... second choice , too big ... third , too slow .... too fast ... "Ok , I'll tell you what I'll do" I say to myself ... " I'll make a description of the ultimate car that would fit my needs and wants and I'll go to the MANIFACTURER and have them make me one accordingly " .... After a a lot-longer-wait (its custome made you see?) and a lot more money out of my pocket I get my one-of-a-kind-fit-just-for-me gizmo ... PERFECT !!!
Two things .
All the other cars that pass me by are red , so , naturally , I would think my all-too-perfect-car is red as well right ? .... Unless of course , I'd step out of my perfect car , and look to see .... well , to my dismay , I find out that mine is white !!
Two . The very day that I bring my newly-found-fit-me-to-a-tee-bundle-of-comfort home , I get a flat tire ... oh nooooo !!
Talk of the town happens to be in the area of " Did you notice that ALL the other cars (the red ones) have no problems with their tires ... except , for the white ??? "
Do we go to Home Depot and buy a can of spray paint and stop by the Pep Boys on the way and get a Fix-a-Flat , or do we change the whole car ?
Acceptance is the answer to ALL of my problems today. When I am disturbed , it is because I find some person , place , thing , or situation - some fact of my life - unacceptibale to me , and I can find no serenity , or peace until I accept all these the way they are supposed to be at this moment . Nothing , absolutely NOTHING happens in God's world by mistake ...Unless I could accept life on life's terms (the way HE , not I ,wants it to be) , I could not be happy . I need to concentrate not so much on what needs to be changed in the world as on what needs to be changed in me and my attitudes .
When I concentrate on the problem , the problem gets bigger ... when I concentrate on the Solution ... The SOLUTION gets bigger .
luv ya
In Christ , our Lord
vahn
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vahn - Posts: 809
- Location: Earth (STILL !!)
Re: change
Hi Heavenbound777....My name is Karen...... I hear what you are saying. I have learned that God makes me responsible for me. I can't change other people only God can change people into what He wants them to be. My job is to obey God and do what He asks of me. I've been doing a lot of studying about Jesus since becoming unemployed. I also watch Joyce Myers tv broadcast and sometimes Joel Olsteen, I go to a wonderful non denominational church where they try to help us be the people God asks us to be. I was traised Catholic but stopped going to church when it all started to be just something routine you did and people would come out of church and gossip and other things. But You see they are not really following Jusy=us and it is not for us to judge others.....we don't want to be judge so we should do that to others. God is the judge of everyone and He is the One we need to answer to.
Recently I read something about being kind to those that are mean to us....in being kind to them it shows them we are like Jeus . Following Jeusu is hard work... He wants others to see Him through us. SO we need to try to be kind and patient and loving even when we don't feel like it. Sometimes we need to stop and ask why someone may act the way they do.....maybe they have problems or are sick ...we just never know.
As for the forgiving part.....no it may not be easy but think of it this way...you are forgiving the person so that you will have peace. It doesn't mean you liked what they did or accept it but you are moving on and not going to let it be a part of your life anymore. If God can forgive us of all the things we do to hurt Him who are we not to forgive others here on earth?
If you ever want to talk....I am here to listen or encourage or share.
Remember Jesus loves you!! Karen
Recently I read something about being kind to those that are mean to us....in being kind to them it shows them we are like Jeus . Following Jeusu is hard work... He wants others to see Him through us. SO we need to try to be kind and patient and loving even when we don't feel like it. Sometimes we need to stop and ask why someone may act the way they do.....maybe they have problems or are sick ...we just never know.
As for the forgiving part.....no it may not be easy but think of it this way...you are forgiving the person so that you will have peace. It doesn't mean you liked what they did or accept it but you are moving on and not going to let it be a part of your life anymore. If God can forgive us of all the things we do to hurt Him who are we not to forgive others here on earth?
If you ever want to talk....I am here to listen or encourage or share.
Remember Jesus loves you!! Karen
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Leilove - Posts: 10
- Location: Pa
- Marital Status: Widowed
Re: change
Hi Heavenbound and welcome! Love the name, btw :-)
Youve received alot of really good, spiritual wisdom here...thank You, Holy Spirit!! I just wanna add that when Im faced with forgiving someone, the good Lord reminds me that we are all dealing with human beings..imperfect as we are. We all have the same enemy working against our souls...whether he's using us to hurt someone else, or hurting us through another soul. We are ALL in need of God's saving grace and mercy. I have 3 sons. They are imperfect. Sometimes they do things that hurt me or one of their brothers. This does not mean that my love for them changes...or is lessened in any way, and my love for them is nowhere near as perfect and unconditional is God's is for His children. When someone hurts you, ask the Lord to help you forgive them. Decide to forgive, knowing that somewhere, at some time, someone was used to hurt them, as well...we are all in the same boat, sister in Jesus. From the beginning of time, we have ALL needed the Mercy Jesus gave on the cross.
My prayers are with you as you travel this path. Know that you are in the right place, at the right time. He has called you and placed a calling on your life. He created you for His purpose...and His love for you is so much deeper than you know. We arent perfect..nor will we be in this life. We are just forgiven people..children..whom He loves. From glory to glory, He changes us from the inside out. His purpose for your life is why you are here.
In Jesus,
love momo
Youve received alot of really good, spiritual wisdom here...thank You, Holy Spirit!! I just wanna add that when Im faced with forgiving someone, the good Lord reminds me that we are all dealing with human beings..imperfect as we are. We all have the same enemy working against our souls...whether he's using us to hurt someone else, or hurting us through another soul. We are ALL in need of God's saving grace and mercy. I have 3 sons. They are imperfect. Sometimes they do things that hurt me or one of their brothers. This does not mean that my love for them changes...or is lessened in any way, and my love for them is nowhere near as perfect and unconditional is God's is for His children. When someone hurts you, ask the Lord to help you forgive them. Decide to forgive, knowing that somewhere, at some time, someone was used to hurt them, as well...we are all in the same boat, sister in Jesus. From the beginning of time, we have ALL needed the Mercy Jesus gave on the cross.
My prayers are with you as you travel this path. Know that you are in the right place, at the right time. He has called you and placed a calling on your life. He created you for His purpose...and His love for you is so much deeper than you know. We arent perfect..nor will we be in this life. We are just forgiven people..children..whom He loves. From glory to glory, He changes us from the inside out. His purpose for your life is why you are here.
In Jesus,
love momo
James 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He shall lift you up.
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