Christianity Oasis Forum

[Dora]

Take all the time you need to think this through Eric. It is a HUGE decision.

God bless.

[Mackenaw]

Hello Popples (((hugs)))

God bless you this day.

It is good to hear from you -- you have been in thoughts and in my prayers. May God's blessed will be done.

I am glad to hear that you have also prayed to God, and I encourage you to keep talking to Him too. Many are praying for you, too.

Popples, God loves you, and He loves your husband, and He loves your 3 children, and He loves the baby that is growing within your womb. He led you here to this site, and He is calling both you and Eric unto Himself, in hopes you will get to know Him and receive Christ Jesus as Lord and Saviour.

I hope to hear from you again, very soon. I pray your ribs heal quickly, too. May God's blessed will be done.

God bless you.
In Christ Jesus' love,
Sister Mack

[Christnundrconstruxn]

Mr and Miss Popples,
I pray that You both have recieved the answers you need and I also pray that no matter the choice made (right or wrong)
You BOTH see God loves you BOTH, but you must FIRST accept Him and ask for forgiveness of all sins.
I want to direct this part to Mr Popples, I am sorry if we (I) came across harsh but PLEASE understand why, we as Christian people see life as a blessing that only God has a choice of giving or taking, we (I) do not know if you are a believer or not but I just wanted to extend that hand I spoke of before only this time as a friend because no matter of your choice or weather I agree or not it is NOT my place to judge you for it, that is something between you and God now.
I just want to say if you would like to speak AS friends please do not hesitate to message me, I will do my best to keep an open mind and speak with you as God would want me to do.
Miss Popples, I pray you are able to heal through this no matter of the outcome, and that the Lord wraps His arms around you and makes you feel safe and loved by Him.
I pray that both of you have made the choice that is of God and in the best interest of all, and I pray you both see the blessings of life as well as a Godly marriage.
I have said a prayer for your family this morning, may God bless you
Cuc

[dema]

Are God and Jesus both the same? There is one God. The manner in which Jesus separated from God to become human and come to earth is a mystery. But we know that he was born and from the moment of his conception was prophesied by God. The promise began at his conception. When Mary was still in her earliest months, her cousin Elizabeth's baby, John the Baptist, leaped in her womb in recognition of the fetus Jesus.

God speaks in the peace. Ask in prayer, thank God in prayer for an answer, and listen. You can go for a quiet walk or sit quietly. God speaks in the peace.

[Gods Sheep]

Hi Eric. I think that is what the others called you. If that is not your name I apologize. There is a couple things I want to add here if I may. I didn't yet read the entire thread but I would like to simply answer a couple questions you just asked on your last post in accordance to my understanding of God. First you asked and I quote

"ok I have read and re-read everything you have all said please tell me if I have understood everything first your saying that it is somthing that was planned for us even before we new we were pregnant."

Answer is yes this baby was in fact planned by God long before you and your wife conceived the child. Not only was this baby planned before he/she was conceived but what you will find hard to believe was this child's life was planned even before you were conceived. Like the scripture I gave you in the room last night which is posted below this baby already had life in God before it was conceived.
Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations."

This child was not created by you and not by your wife but by God. God designed and created him/her and gave this child the gift of life.

Now as far as you second question is God and Jesus the same? That is a debate that has been argued and questioned by Christian for the last 2 thousand years. Some think there are in fact the very same. Others think they are 2 different actual being but regardless of whether or not they are the same we know that Jesus is the authority of God 100 percent. His word is the word of God. He is the word of God and he is absolutely 100 percent the complete authority of God.

Colossians 1:16
For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.

My interpretation of this scripture is Jesus and the father are 2 different beings but Jesus is the absolute complete and total representation of the father who sent him. Easiest way for me to put in my brain for my own understanding is this. You have a man who builds a business empire such as a retail chain. This man has a son who later in life will inherit the business so the man raises his son to learn the business in every way so when he takes over he will know how to run it. Later in life the son begins to take over many of his fathers duties and the father semi retires and relaxes while his son takes over. that son is the representation of the father completely and is the boss although his father is the owner of the company and the main authority the son is the authority of his father and thru him his father runs the business.

There are many who will argue that view point but that is one of mine I use to understand.

Now I don't want to make you feel like I am being judgmental but personally if I was in your shoe I would consider adoption rather than abortion. God gave this child life for a reason and has a plan for it. He gave you the gift of the child and you do have the opportunity to accept it or reject it, If you choose to reject it then there are thousands of other couples in the world who are dieing to have a child and can't and would love this baby as their own. Abortion is not a winning situation in any way but adoption could be a win win and win situation. You win by not having the responsibility of raising the child and you can set it up that you and your wife have relations with the child as it grows if yo so wish to. The child will keep it's life so it wins and the other parents get their dreams and prayers answered by receiving a baby they can't have on their own so they win.

Anyway God is with you and loves you and I hope I didn't make things worse or harder for you two..

God Bless
Sheep

[popples]

SHEEP
first of all I was wondering why it didnt show up under the rest of the comments I had to go to your profile to see your comments.

Anyway that really shocked me when you said the child would live on either way....sheep I have to be honest apart from this baby thing I am feeling weird about what I have done to my wife and I have another big secret that my wife or anyone knows about and after reading this stuff and what God says I feel I have to sort myself/my life gosh this really sounds silly oh well I think this is my quew to leave. I feel like a kid but I run my own business and always have all the answers but not with this.

[popples]

Thankyou everyone I have been checking this about three times a day and wondered why no one was answering but just then I discovered that I had only looked on the first page now I realize there were two pages, so thankyou all for your support. I dont understand what is happening in my heart. How on earth can a computor change how I feel.

[Christnundrconstruxn]

Eric,
You have no need to try to cope with any issues by yourself, just as your wife came here for reassurance and now you search for answers, you see we lashed out at you for a decision that some of us feel is not to be made by man unless it involves life threatening reasons BUT that was wrong on our part we have no right to judge you we should have done the giving of our opinion but done it in a loving way, but I hope you understand our reasons for trying to convince you to choose life, weather you kept the baby or adopted it out.
You are welcome to speak with ANY of us you feel comfortable with or even look through the counseling pages yourself but I strongly suggest you as well as your wife do one or both.
We all you will find have dark secrets or unhealed hurts some choose to be open about them and some choose to be more private.
You see one of my weaknesses before coming here was judgement and it was final, I wouldn't have a change of heart about a lot of things but I realized at some point we all need forgiveness and we only hurt ourselves when we refuse to give it, so with that said I hope you will forgive me for lashing out I was wrong, I felt bad...for choosing to speak to you as if I had a right to judge.
And remember as I said we ALL have secrets, it's just what you choose to do with them that matters, theres not much you could be going through that someone here has not or is not dealing with also.
I pray you find the guidance and answers you are searching for
God bless you and your family
Cuc

[Christianity Oasis]

I REALLY like God's message thru ole Cuc ... WHEN ole Cuc allows God to share thru him.

Amen and Amen.

LOVE and LET live.
LIVE and LET Love overcome ALL.

Despite what we BELIEVE might be TRULY going on behind the CURTAIN.

John 7:24 ... Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment …

Remember, there may be a soul who is TRULY CAUGHT UP in this web, who reads what you are sharing and does not UNDERSTAND what and WHY you are sharing what you are and makes CHOICES based on this ...

The Bible shares an OBVIOUS fact about judging ...

Judge not lest ye be judged ...

We all have our own demons we are dealing with, past and present choices, vices and habits, etc ...

And we have NO INTEREST in God bringing ours to LIGHT ... Until we overcome.

Here is an idea ... HELP others OVERCOME.

Seems a wise choice ...

Drowning em in OUR own self proclaimed righteousness ... Does NOT seem to be a method by which to bring em to Christ and/or Truth.

How can you ever BELIEVE that you can save one child's life ... By drowning another child of GOD?

Acts 15:10-11
Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? But we believe that through the Grace of the LORD Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

Share this TRUTH of GRACE.

Then bask in it ...

Aint NONE of us has "GOD" printed on our "SERVANTS of God" shirt name tag ...

Unless you be covering up the "SERVANTS of" part as to APPEAR to be one who has the RIGHT to determine the path of another ...

Let GOD do His job and let us ... Do ours.

REACH for His lost and hurting with LOVE and understanding .......

Just like you hope/hoped for with tears in YOUR own eyes and fears in YOUR heart.

Luv all of ya

[popples]

Eric the feelings you have been having are the same as what I felt and Im not sure if Im right but I think its Gods Love.
Please let us have this baby together I know you have been mad with me but we could start again I am not mad at y0ou but please can we try.

Your wife Gwen

[Christnundrconstruxn]

Lord I ask that You please show ALL of us Your mercy, understanding and love through this as well as ALL other trials in our lives, I ask that You show satan your strength by giving this marriage blessings as only You can give, please show satan as well as anyone else who doubts Your love for us that You ARE the almighty.
I thank you for allowing me to be a part of this and for allowing ME to learn Your love as well as anyone else invloved.
Amen

CO thank you for all you do in Gods honor

Gwen and Eric may God pour His blessing on both of you and your marriage
Cuc

[Gods Sheep]

Hey Eric,
I just want to say that I know right now you have things weighing heaven on your heart and I hope I did not come off judgmental, If I did come across that way I want to apologize. I want you to know that even though you are not sure about your faith in the lord he is solid in his faith in you. He loves you as he does everyone, To the point he was happy to sacrifice his own life for you so you can have eternal life with him. God Bless you and your wife bro. If you have any questions while on your walk with Christ in understanding faith you are more than welcome to ask anyone here. I am quite sure we all would be more than happy to help with any confusion if we can.