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Postby vahn » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:42 am

Luke 12:12
For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.

Yet another "session" today .

To put all this in a proper perspective , I have to look at the entire picture , frame and all .
From a distance , it says spiritual retreat , ok , pass the frame go inside , they say christian based , spiritual retreat . Ok , I'm in a spiriritual turmoil and an emotional wreck , and I didnt even dare to look at where I was mentaly , I need a place to go to receive solace , comfort , "cool my heels" so to speak , 2 or 3 days later I am full of shame guilt and remorse , for thinking such thoughts as sinful as they come , for I had unintentinaly shoved God to the side , and it was not the thoughts or temptations, I was feeling guilty of ( thought & temtations are not sin , entertaining them is ) but rather having totaly kept God out of life at the moment , which was shredding me to pieces at the time.
With extensive search & ask later , I'm getting ideas like "this place is for the birds". Last ditch effort lands me back here at Oasis , and it was through HERE that I was able to get back up , and not their so called "services" . In fact , if anything , I think they just helped me substitute one turmoil with another , more like "hit your toe to forget about your headache".

Now , I put myself in someone else's shoes , they come in , I greet them , and the only solace I can offer is the one I received , through my own experience right ? Go to OASIS , dont listen to the people , they cause nothing headaches . Those are not comforting words to be greeted with.

Today , I told them just that . making chrystal clear to them that it is not my intent to downgrade or "bad-mouth" so to speak , but rather to help see why some changes are in order , otherwise , if things dont change , I will become a liar by participation . It is my intent to make my services available to them , and if they choose to so , to expect me to tell the truth acording to my experience , and I dont sugar-coat anything .
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Postby mlg » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:15 am

Vahn, you ever thought about why you keep coming back to the Oasis under God's guidance? It's cuz He knows this is where He can heal you best. You know what works for one doesn't always work for another, and I think that is what these people you talk about need to see. God is the only person who works for all...and it's not about individual ministries, but about allowing God to work in the lives of others...regardless of the way that is done. I pray that God keeps speaking through you, and that His will is done always.

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Postby vahn » Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:41 pm

Amen M , and you know what ? God's will always gets done , no matter how we respond to it .

Comfy's right as well , by working WITH one another the "wrongs " can be righted .

However, evrytime I ask why is it that they are not budging from their stance , seeing that it IS causing a conflict , ( I'm not the only one here that feels the same way about it , I'm just more verbal about it and willing to stick my neck out ) but the answers I'm getting are so minute, that I'm saying the exact thing that comfy is is using in teminology , I'm saying look at it , this is what it's causing , I'm not saying any thing about right or wrong , but just look at the facts !

The library is closing , be back 2morrow

thanx for your replies , love you all
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Postby mlg » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:42 pm

And sometimes we have to point things out to our brothers and sisters in Christ so they can check their fruits. Maybe God sent you here to help them vahn, ever think about that?

Have a blessed night.

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