Christianity Oasis Forum

[RockofAges]

Just a radom thought... I understand many have different views on this intense matter.

Those in Christ we all know and understand the importance of sharing the saving message of the good news of the gospel that saves souls in Christ Jesus.

When is it ok to protect others in full honesty that there are some places in life of all kinds that there are pit falls to consider and do our all to fore warn so they heed to saftey of all the wolves in life be it in a church or site or jobs or schools ect, we are dealing with real people good the bad and the ugly here and those just by one simple loving convo can save them so much damage or even their life just by sharing truth about a matter?

Some believe just leave it with Jesus but Jesus said to go ye into all the world not just stand by and watch his saits fall, some will say just pray yet how many times were we sent to be that answer to prayer and didnt do what Good Shepherds do for the flock who is trusting....

It to me I see is just a mess since satan is cunning and crafty and seems like an angel of light, what can we do that is right besides just sit on it and read the bible daily and misuse words on or offline and miss the entire point of what the bible is for.

Many can't take the log out of their own eye and dig for the speck in their brother's eye and what is left is a big mess and nothing gets better in the church. Can anyone help on this matter? Please no debating, only looking for those who have been there and know. The consern I have are some who will offer up damaging advice. Please God for once give us all insight.

[Maverick_Reborn]

Hello rockofages. Just like with what you just said about people using the wrong words and giving bad advice, what good is it to point it out if you do not correct it. You want a straightforward answer, but there are none. Just like with false advice, there will always be a division in opinion. Many times people do lock their lips when they should help someone. If you are there to correct it, than do not hesitate. Always forewarn someone, lest they trust in a different gospel. Do not make them feel afraid, for fear is yet another tool of the devil, and they may not listen to any truth. Sometimes prayer is the only thing you can do, because you cannot force anyone to accept the truth. Forcing people is futile and it may cause them to completely reject their faith because they feel they are pressured too much. Unfortunately people judge others even when they have their own faults, but instead of pointing it out, teach them the right way. Everyone who lives in the truth is your family, be a kind ear and listen to anyone's problems, but do not judge. Teach them not to judge, because if you do nothing to help people within the church than you are part of the division of the church. We are not meant to be divided, and I realize that to. I cannot judge because I do not help as many people as I should. I am writing this for you and me. If you share truth with the church and they reject you, then help the people within that church individually, or the cycle of damaging advice continues.. I really hope I answered your question somewhere in there. XD

[RockofAges]

Well said and bless you for taking a step out to share with us all! Many blessings to you.

I just hope as we all make it past the finish line in life. For some of us we will be falling over that finish line but right on time LOL, along the way I hope our misteaks will be well used to be a guide post of what not to do as others look on taking that journey in life behind us, as well as leavings post signs of the right things that got us where we needed to go as a reminder to keep the faith in what is right even if it does cost something steep.

In the mean time I pray I be found walking the best I can in the trusted sure footed foot steps of Jesus.

[Maverick_Reborn]

i agree completely with sharing mistakes to help guide other people A couple of my dreams have shown me that being lazy is dangerous =.= Although I have found that sharing your concerns, even on christianity oasis eases the burden. GBU, I hope to hear from you soon

[RockofAges]

Being lazy???? hey nothing wrong with a nappy pooh time to time.....

[Maverick_Reborn]

yeah, perhaps i used the wrong word =) I meant that if you have an answer to someone's problems, you should never hesitate or make excuses... I love taking naps too, though

[Timothy]

As I read and reread and re-reread your posts, a couple of thoughts came to my mind.

We need to humble our selves first. This is a process I do believe. Like it was mentioned, we need to be able to
remove the log from our own eye. In order to do that we must look into the mirror of His word. Sometimes we
just don't understand what is is we are seeing. It may take time to figure it out. Patients may be needed. It
might take time and lots of "receiving" and "accepting" and hurting and wrestling with God to get it right.
A "Proccess of Progress" is what I call it.

Recognizing seasons. Not everyone is in the same season. Just because God has been working with one on a
particular subject doesn't mean everyone else is in that same season. Answers may be different for others.

When one doesn't know how to respond, sometimes prayer is all one can do. Or maybe just be there to provide a
sholder to lean on, or maybe just a hug.

I like to watch the examples set by others. I have noticed the more "mature" one is in their walk, the more they
seem to be able to help others. Why? Like it has already been posted, the mature christian knows how to "not judge".
When they offer help its like more of an invitation into a warm soft loving hug. Their response is more like a lamp
to one's path than to "fix" someone's problem. We need to remember that - they - need to walk their own walk
with God. They need to develope thier own personal relationship with God. They can't do it by walking
our walk.

Sometimes all we can do it to plant a seed. Then let God work at His timing. And we can be near for when its their time. Sometimes months or even years later.

Forgiveness is important too. Sometimes we just don't get it right. Or sometimes the other just doesn't get it.
Forgiveness, all around, is an important understanding of the proccess. And humbling too.
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(story)
There was this guy who was walking down the street and fell into a deep pit.
He cried out for help. A policeman heard his cry. The police man told him he would go get some help.
The guy in the pit continued to cry out for help. Then a minister walked by and said he would pray for him.
As the guy in the pit continued to cry out for help, a friend of his walked by. His friend, upon seeing the problem
jumped into the pit with the guy. The guy got all mad and started calling his friend all kinds of names and cursing
at him saying, "Now you are stuck down here too. You're of no help!" The friend said, "Oh, but I've been down here
before. And I know the way out."

Lord, I am here. Send me.

Thank you for allowing me to share my thoughts.

Timothy

[Maverick_Reborn]

Yes, I understand =) thank you timothy. Never before I became stronger in faith have I realized that easing one's burden can be accomplished through one's own experience in darkness. To lift the darkness off my own spirit, I must use the sin that has so plagued me to guide other people in the right direction. My words can only soothe, but God's word can heal.

[RockofAges]

Well I think I understand what is being said here, I am truly learning from others misteaks made here. Thank you guys. That takes courage to share.