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[Daisy50]

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Got something on my mind......Need to know how to handle it.....Would love for any advice.....

A few days ago I was in chat. Another chat person was talking about how they were having some anxiety when doing the CCCC program and was thinking of "just giving up on it".....(they'd tried doing the program before and would end up in frustration, etc)....

My heart went out to this person......
I told them, "If I knew what the program was about, I'd be more than happy to volunteer my time to help you thru it, but since I've never been thru the program I don't feel I have the 'tools' to help you...."

BUT, I went on to say "Maybe I could post about this, and ask anyone who has been in the program(or going thru it at this moment)if they could reach out to this person and help get them thru it...without giving up on it."

I said I would post to find if there could be anyone who's gone thru the CCCC program, if they could offer their time to work one-on-one with this person. Is this something that has been done before here at Oasis-individual counselling for those who're struggling with programs and ready to give up?

So that's my first "what to do" that I am posing to anyone/everyone who is reading this right now.

Another "what to do"......When we're in chat and someone comes in and they're all "down in the dumps and sad....etc"......They are seeking advice in the open chat. Again, I feel their pain, their need...and so I asked them if they would like to chat privately about what's going on....even if it just for me to listen to what they have to say...

They come into pm and the first thing they say is "so what do we talk about"......that confuses me. So I answer and say "I thought maybe you would find it easier to chat in here with me about what is going on....", to which they reply, "I dont know if I want to talk about it"....when not 2 seconds before, they were talking about it in open chat.

Sooo again I ask anyone who is reading this...."what to do"? How can we help others who say they're confused about "stuff" and say they don't know what to do.......but we offer them a chance to talk and they clam up, and say "they don't wanna' talk about it".

I don't want them to feel like I am giving up on them if they chose not to talk......
I want them to be able to reach out.....
I feel sad for those who can't....
I guess I expect ppl to be more open than they are.
I pray for those who don't know how to reach out....
I worry about them, and I ask God to protect them from whatever is going on in their lives, that eventually they WILL be able to talk to us and HIM.

Daisy

[sbennett]

Hey daisy...I read over what you asked and I get it. I am working throught the counseling ...again. Ive done 7 days and will start the next 7 tomorrow. It is not easy...but it is very helpful. It is not hard for me to follow but I have been a Christian since I was a kid so I get a lot of it. I find that it is very encouraging...asks tough questions but provides lots of help and love from our Lord. I can help any who are just starting out on it that have questions....if not I can at least pray with them or for them.

About the P Ms in chat. I don't do much pm unless I know and have chatted with that person a few times. I have to feel comfortable I guess. I have not really had a problem tho. But...I will see what happens as I chat. Yeah...its hard to know how to meet the needs of others if they dont really open up at least a little. I can just encourage them and tell them I care in that case I guess.

Take care daisy....God Bless you!

[Mackenaw]

Hello Daisy

God bless you this day.

There are many, many, many of us who have done the Counseling Study, also referred to as the CCCC Study and/or the 14-Day Path Study, who have been blessed beyond measure. There is also a CCCC Chat Program on Thursday nights -- in Chat -- which is a support group type thing for those doing the Study, yet not limited to just those doing the Study. Pretty Cool, huh?

There is no shame in not understanding some aspect of the CCCC Study. I would hope that anyone wanting or needing assistance would feel free to ask for help, via the CCCC Blog area, or during the CCCC Chat Program, if they didn't fully understand a particular part of the Study.

There are some that have trouble because they find the Study too lengthy, requiring them to read more than they want to, or perhaps capable of. I'm not sure there is an answer right now to that problem, because one must read it for themselves in order for it to work for them. In times past, someone actually posted portions of the CCCC Study in Chat; however, that too required that the participants read what was posted. The CCCC Study is not available via audio format.

Occasionally, some will stop doing the Study, because they feel convicted by The Word / The Bible scriptures within the Study, as the Study leans heavily on The Bible -- The blessed Word of God. In cases such as this, my prayer is that they will come to know that it is the blessed work of The Holy Spirit through The Word that convicts us, in order that our walk be corrected. The Lord corrects those that He loves, and He is the one that helps us to change, through His power. The Lord does not require anything from us in which He does not provide the means by which to accomplish it. The Truth (The Word of God -- The Bible -- Jesus) will set us free.

There is no shame in not doing the CCCC Study.

As far as reaching out to one another in Chat, some people are not comfortable talking one on one in PM. Tonight, in COOL Church, Oasis brought this topic to the table for us to discuss. It is a matter of us ALL being the Body of Christ -- not individually -- but ALL combined. We, individually, are a Body part. If I am a toe, and someone needs an elbow, I cannot help them. But, the cool thing is, I can still pray for them -- whether or not they are even aware of it. God is the One I'm praying to, and He knows what it is that person needs. It is a matter of His Love, actively flowing in and through us all, for one another. He is glorified.

Daisy, sometimes I wonder if what I do does any good whatsoever, because I seldom see the results. But I know a Truth that always comes to my heart in those times of wondering: If it is His love, and His Word, and His power, it will not come back void. It begins with Him and it returns unto Him. So I pray always that anything I do will honor Him and will help those, that I so often feel so inadequate to help. And He gives me peace.

May God's blessed will be done.

God bless and keep you, Daisy.
Love,
Mack

[Dora]

Daisy, sometimes I wonder if what I do does any good whatsoever, because I seldom see the results.

I see results. I'm one of them.




Love your sweet kind spirit Daisy. I can not add anything others haven't.
Except this....
http://www.christianityoasis.com/ManyCa ... /forum.htm

It is simular to the CCCC only geared more towards those called to be His hands and feet.

[vahn]

Hello Daisy

Like Pine , I am also in a position of not knowing what to "add" to what had already been said , except maybe , I admire your concerns of how to better serve the ones who need it most .

For my two cent's worth . Not to long ago , I posted something in Real Solutions forum , an advice my sponsor handed down to me from his sponsor , I believe it will serve as an "answer" to two of the issues you brought up . One , it is the fact that we cannot be ALL things to everybody , Like sister Mack mentioned , "a toe cannot serve as an elbow"... But . However , if we were first acquaint ourselves with other members of the "body" by way of finding out who the "toe" is and who's the "elbow" , that way , when we come to a situation of "not knowing what to say" we would say something like , "I know a person who would be of more help to you" ... but that of course brings us to a totally different subject called --- working as a UNIT , we'll get to that some other time ... soon I hope ... Like tonite ??? ... at 9 EST ??... no pressure !!!

About CCCC , we have a "sayin" in AA , "We cannot transmit what we haven't got" . It is highly advisable to all members that are willing to be of utmost help to another , to at least read through it as to getting an idea of what the person going through them is talking about , one thing for sure , as an example .. it says 14 day .. we instantly think as in 14 straight days , and most , (like me) think if they "missed" a day , well ...

And finally ... In cool church last nite ... attention seekers were mentioned ? ... yeah , we get a lot of those , if it is attention they are seeking , attention they will get , right ? It is up to them to decide what kind !


Luv ya
In Christ , our Lord

[Daisy50]

Thanks for your feedback.....Much appreciated! Yes..working as a unit is best for sure. Just call this my "wanting-to-save-the-world-one-person-at-a-time-syndrome".
Oh yes, I see those who are here for "seeking attention". They are a distraction(but God Bless 'em-I pray for them too) but for those who really are reaching out, sometimes it is hard to differentiate between them, and we find ourselves getting "suckered in".
Not to "toot my own horn", I thank God every time I have someone thank me for the program I do on Wednesday nights, and those who'll pm me to tell me "this is what I really needed to hear".....It warms my heart to know that I am reaching them thru the program.
Many of you have touched my heart, listened to me, prayed for/with me & advised me when I've needed some guidance. I pray that I can and will be able to continue to do the same for you.
God Bless you all.....And God Bless our Oasis. This place rocks!
Daisy

[mlg]

Hi daisy for many years my truest passion was to reach out to the hurting souls in the counseling forum...but for some odd reason...I hear their cries...but can't seem to force myself to attend to their cries....Lord forgive me.

luv ya