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[TrueAndMagneticNorth]

Hi All,

More on the current topic. I refer you to another article, which quotes a physician from Sacramento, USA.

In summary, he believes there could be a massive wave of cancer patients due to the governmental shutdowns. I believe I may have mentioned this likelihood in a previous post.

According to the physician, many people are not getting the regular medical care they need to screen for cancer, or being monitored for the possible return of cancer after previous treatments.

Moreover, at least some of this care has been put under the category of 'non-essential' care due to the virus restrictions.

To be sure, this is a currently intangible thing to estimate, but people are assuredly going to get cancer, and some will die of cancer, because of the governmental shutdowns.

It's only with hindsight, i.e. future annual statistics, that we will have an idea about how many (presuming the statistics are not manipulated).

If you are concerned about your health, or that of a loved one (for non-Corona reasons, or Corona reasons) and your mind would be put to rest by a check-up, don't be afraid to be as pushy as you feel is necessary to get an appointment.

Then again, we're now living in a globalist police state, so it might not get you very far.

Seek God's help, and anything is possible.

Link below:

https://www.infowars.com/potential-mass ... ical-care/

[TrueAndMagneticNorth]

Hello Again,

More on the current situation. Firstly, my disclaimer right from the outset:

The coronavirus is undoubtedly a real thing that has killed people, and I would be shattered if my elderly parents were to catch it and die, as any other person would be.

However, I maintain, based on a whole bunch of evidence, that the general seriousness of the virus has been exaggerated by the government-media complex, and also lied about by corrupt, government-paid scientists.

Italy has obviously been one of the hardest-hit countries, undoubtedly. However, new data, from the Italian government itself, has admitted that 96% of all coronavirus fatalities in Italy were people who already had pre-existing conditions (the vast bulk of them had two or three pre-existing conditions all-in-one), and/or were very old. Average age of all fatalities in Italy was 80 years old.

For your information, average life expectancy in Italy when you take coronavirus totally out of the equation is about 83.

Each death is sad, that is not what I am disputing. What I am asserting, firmly based on a wealth of evidence, is that the virus is being overhyped for reasons unknown (or perhaps is it just mass hysteria?), and that the governmental shutdowns are far more damaging, and deadly than the virus ever would have been.

Having said that, if the shutdown would save my parents, then my own selfish interests, just like any other person and their selfish interests, would be happy for the shutdowns to happen. I admit it.

But if we take such self-interest out of it, and look at the whole thing impartially, the shutdowns are much worse than the virus. If I am somehow wrong, may God show me that I am thinking incorrectly on the issue. But until such time, I believe that the evidence clearly supports my assertion.

If you would like to read an article on the statistics from the Italian government, a link to an article is below:

https://thehill.com/changing-america/we ... ngly-among

[TrueAndMagneticNorth]

Hello Everyone,

Another post on the coronavirus situation.

I want to make an observation on the killing by police of African-American man, George Floyd. It’s obviously a very fraught, volatile topic, and I will not wade into the political side of things, as it would do no good.

All I wish to do is highlight two facts about the case of George Floyd, which the lying mainstream media, and corrupt politicians across the board, would obviously have no interest in talking about. Here are the two facts:

1) George was accused of attempting to buy something with an (allegedly) fake $20 note…

2) George had been employed as a security guard, but lost his job because of the government shutdown in response to the coronavirus…

Does this mean anything? Make of it what you will.

Anyway, now I wish to refer you to a new article, titled, ‘German official leaks report denouncing Corona as ‘A Global False Alarm’.’

The article will provide you a summary of the report. Here are some key takeaways:

-German federal government and establishment media are now busy covering up this report, which was reportedly leaked from the Interior Ministry.

- Seriousness of the virus has been grossly exaggerated, and most victims were going to die soon of other causes (note: I know that there are also healthy people who died and, besides, I do not devalue the lives of anyone who died, whether it was from the virus, other causes, or a combination).

- The coronavirus has only (so far) caused about one-sixth of the fatalities caused by an influenza wave in 2017-18. The death toll in Germany for that was about 25,000, 3 times the current number in Germany for the coronavirus.

- The results of the governmental shutdowns are much worse than the virus itself (more people are dying from the shutdowns, than from the virus).

- A massive amount of life-saving surgery or treatment for non-corona illnesses has been postponed because of the shutdowns. For example, as even admitted by establishment outlet, ‘Das Bild,’ well over 50,000 cancer operations/surgeries have been postponed in Germany alone, up to May 23rd (and undoubtedly many more since), all because of the government response to the coronavirus.

There is more to the report. If you are interested, the link is below:

https://unitynewsnetwork.co.uk/german-o ... ks-report/

[TrueAndMagneticNorth]

Hi Everyone,

I’ll keep this short today. It’s recently been reported in several news outlets that over 1,200 ‘health professionals’ (presumably from the US) signed a letter supporting the protests/riots in the aftermath of the killing of George Floyd. In the same letter, however, protests against government shutdowns (related to Coronavirus) are specifically denounced.

This is hypocrisy on steroids (what other way is there to describe this?), and more evidence that ‘experts’ are not God, and should be considered with skepticism, especially if they’re paid by the government. Of course, this doesn’t mean that all experts are corrupt/untrustworthy. But healthy skepticism is very important, otherwise we’ll just believe whatever we’re told by mainstream media, politicians, etc.

Link to an article on this is below:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... -protests/

I will also link to another article in this post. Ironically, it is about an expert from Australia who I believe is credible (one from the minority). He said that the big lockdown in Australia was a mistake to start with, but that governments do not tend to admit mistakes (obviously very true), so they are only easing slowly out of the lockdowns to act as if they’re still very concerned, and didn’t overreact, etc.

I wish you a nice Sunday, and hope you are able to get to church, or otherwise worship as best you can. Link to an article on this is below:

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6162160962001

[TrueAndMagneticNorth]

Hi All,

I wish to refer you to a couple of articles. The first is titled, ‘Former NYT Reporter Alex Berenson: Only ‘Marginal Evidence that Lockdowns Work’ It includes some of the points I have covered in this thread on coronavirus, but also a lot of others.

The spread of disinformation and hysteria, particularly by mainstream media, is a key focus of the article. Link below:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... owns-work/

The other article I wish to refer you to is actually from 2017. It refers to a study which was done by the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention, et al, which estimated that seasonal flu waves killed from 291,000- 646, 000 per annum.

If we split the difference here, the total is approximately 470,000, or just a touch less. The official toll for the coronavirus (worldwide) is currently (at the time of my writing this) listed as about 465,000.

On the one hand, we’re about halfway through the year, so the coronavirus has virtually reached the annual influenza death toll in about half the time. However, there has also been a concerted effort to hype up coronavirus death tolls, and many people who have died from non-corona causes have been officially chalked up as corona fatalities. How many? I don’t know.

The coronavirus has, at worst, (so far) killed people at about twice the rate of a normal flu. This is obviously sad for the many victims and their loved ones, whether they have died because of the coronavirus, or other things such as the flu.

Coronavirus is apparently somewhat worse than a normal flu overall. This would clearly appear to be the case. However, many, many people are also losing their lives as a direct result not of the virus, but the shutdowns.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, tens of millions in the 3rd world are facing starvation by the end of the year not because of the virus, but as a direct result of the shutdowns. A colossal amount of critical medical care (e.g. for cancer) has been postponed across the western world, and probably beyond, because governments have prioritized corona patients, and because of the general shutdowns.

Suicide epidemics are sweeping the world, directly tied in to the despair people are feeling from the shutdowns. Substance abuse, and domestic violence have rocketed across our societies as a direct result of the shutdowns.

My argument remains the same; the coronavirus is bad, but the shutdowns are much, much worse than the virus could’ve ever been.

The mainstream media and people who consume it promote the big lie that the shutdowns are a good thing, they say it’s lives versus money (shutdowns save lives, while financial hardship may result). This is a bald-faced lie. It’s clearly lives versus lives, only a question of how many on either side.

Based on the evidence, I believe that the shutdowns are killing far more people than the virus ever would have.

If you would like a link to a brief report on the 2017 article, link is below:

https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main ... key=208914

[TrueAndMagneticNorth]

Hello again Everyone,

There is much about the entire coronavirus situation (especially with regard to behaviour/reactions of governments) that simply doesn't add up.

'Incompetent', and 'sinister' are two words that come to my mind when I think of government/mainstream media. Yet, for many people, government is their god.

I don't say this to be nasty. It's only through the grace of God that any of us have the infinite fortune and luck to know Him. He chose us, not the other way around (sure, in a way we have to choose Him back if He chooses us first, but you know what I mean, I think).

This is just an illustrator of what we are up against in this world. People who unfortunately don't know God clearly have a void, which is filled with something else. I think of people who have total trust in the government as very much like anyone else who believes in God, whether it be our Father (father of Jesus Christ), or some other god.

For such people, the government is their god, and the mainstream media is their holy scripture (my comparison doesn't apply to every secular person, but I believe it applies to a great many).

To get to my point of the day, I'm sure you've all heard about 'corona apps' which are being rolled out to 'protect' us from corona, according to the official story, but- more to the point- they are almost certainly far more about surveillance, and building their globalist empire, in which freedom is not part of their plans.

In Australia, almost 6.5 million people have downloaded the app. It's supposed to alert people when they are in the vicinity of another person (with the app, too, naturally) who has been infected with the virus.

After two months in operation, guess how many cases it has detected, and how many people (in total) it has warned (?) Think carefully. Do you want a clue? It's a single-digit number, is round, and it has a hole in the middle.

If you would like to read an article on this, link is below. God bless, and stay vigilant against the globalist agenda.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal ... 556s7.html

[TrueAndMagneticNorth]

Hi again,

This shall be a non-corona post. As you may well have heard, Ghislaine Maxwell was arrested. She was the girl-friend/partner-in-crime of Jeffrey Epstein, who I’ve talked about earlier in this thread.

Epstein ˋcommitted suicideˋ in prison roughly a year ago. He was almost certainly murdered (silenced) because of all of the rich and powerful on whom he had dirt.

However, the mainstream media has (unsurprisingly) pushed the narrative that it was an open-and-shut case of suicide, despite a pile of highly suspicious circumstances surrounding his death, which indicated an extremely high probability that he was murdered, and did not commit suicide.

Now, with Ghislaine Maxwell also in custody in the US, and no doubt in possession of a whole bunch of dirt which would incriminate the rich and powerful, and their participation in the Epstein pedophile rings, there are great fears that Maxwell will also ˋcommit suicideˋ before she has the chance to talk. In fact, some people have already predicted that, like Epstein, she will also be murdered before she can dish the dirt.

Obviously, if and when this happens, mainstream media will not ask any hard questions, and will report it as a routine, unsuspicious suicide.

A link to a relevant article on this is below.

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... a4ae4e8413

[TrueAndMagneticNorth]

Hello Everyone,

I am providing a link to a new article which reports that, according to a new UN report, an extra 45 million people in Latin America will be plunged into poverty this year because of the government shutdowns in response to the Coronavirus.

Of course, globalist organisations like the UN, and almost all corporate media outlets, blame the virus, not the shutdowns.

However, the indisputable fact is that it is the shutdowns, not the virus, which are responsible for these tens of millions forced into poverty in Latin America.

A loss of tourism, general economic contraction, and reduced remittances are the main reasons given for this economic disaster in Latin America.

They have far more to do with government shutdowns, than the virus itself.

Again, I hope you are going as well as can be during these times, and continually seeking God’s guidance.

Link to the article itself is below:

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/latin ... nd/1905515

[TrueAndMagneticNorth]

Hello Again,

Some of you reading my comments about the Coronavirus shutdowns may be wondering what it has to do with Christ, and Christianity.

In short, I feel compelled to bring to you a counter-narrative to the hopelessly dishonest government-media complex. And it is critical for Christians to be sceptical of government-mainstream media.

I now refer you to a new article, which focuses on a new report from Oxfam, which openly states that the governmental shutdowns across the world are likely going to kill far more people than the virus itself.

According to Oxfam, about 12,000 people per day (mainly from 3rd world countries) are currently starving to death per day (or, 12,000 will have starved to death per day across the globe by the end of the year), as a direct result of the shutdowns.

Do the maths on that. The shutdowns came into effect around March. That’s about 9 months til the end of the year. That is approximately 12,000 per day, over nine months, because of the shutdowns.

Link to article is below:

https://www.breitbart.com/national-secu ... ronavirus/

[TrueAndMagneticNorth]

Hello All,

More today on the untold devastation of the government shutdowns in response to the corona virus.

If you are new to this forum, my point, backed by a wealth of evidence, is thus; the coronavirus is bad, and kills a lot of people; the governmental shutdowns in response to the virus are worse than the virus, and kill many more people than the virus itself.

The latest I can tell you is this, and even reported/admitted by the BBC: Research, undertaken by scientists, suggests that at least 7,000 people in the UK, but maybe five times that number, are going to die of cancer by the end of the year, due solely to the shutdowns.

To be sure, many people die of cancer anyway, but an extra 7,000-35,000 will have died of cancer by the end of the year because of the shutdown. These are patients who would’ve otherwise received the treatment they needed to beat cancer, or at least extend their lives, but were denied the life-saving, or life-extending treatment they needed, because of the shutdown.

The almost exclusive focus on the coronavirus, which for most people includes symptoms no worse than a cold or flu, had seen urgent cancer referrals drop by 45% across the UK up to the end of May.

Moreover, radiotherapy machines in hospitals were left idle. People with cancer were either made to delay, or totally avoid their life-saving, life-preserving radiotherapy, in order to somehow minimise the number of people exposed to the coronavirus (Make sense to you? Doesn’t make any sense to me at all, but maybe, just maybe I’m missing something. However, I doubt it).

Efforts are now apparently being made to suitably readjust by British medical authorities, but it will likely be too late for at least 7,000 people who would have otherwise beaten cancer, or at least had their lives extended.

I don’t like to be repetitive, but will do it anyway. Be very sceptical of government, and sceptical of its mouthpiece, mainstream media. Also be sceptical of government-paid scientists. I, for one, and I am sure you’re the same, love science. But I detest ‘scientism’, the corrupted, agenda-driven version of science that is overseen by our immoral governments. ‘Scientism’, after all, has given us such fallacies like ‘The theory of evolution’, as the origin of human life.

Be very sceptical. And just because someone says that they believe in science, it doesn’t necessarily mean that they really do believe in science. It is just as likely that they believe in scientism, not science.

Link to the article is below:

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53300784

[TrueAndMagneticNorth]

Hello Everyone,

I am coming across scores of articles, studies, statistics, etc, which indicate that the government-ordered shutdowns across the globe kill more people than the corona virus itself.

Unfortunately, I don’t have time to post them all. However, I have decided to share one with you today. The title is: ‘Study: Global shutdowns killing 10,000 children per month.’

I presume that this is the global tally. Given that most of the hardcore shutdowns were started around March, four months ago, well, you can do the maths on how many children may have already been killed by the shutdowns, with no end in sight.

Other findings in the report: 140 million people will be thrown into extreme poverty due to the shutdowns, and another 130 million will fall into a category in which their food supplies are insecure.

Keep in mind: those people supportive of the shutdowns don’t like to talk about these uncomfortable details, because it disproves the fairy tale that governments/media care about people, and only want what’s best.

It is dangerous to believe that government/media have good intentions. Christ is the only One who deserves our total trust.

Link to a relevant article is below:

https://bongino.com/study-global-lockdo ... -per-month

[TrueAndMagneticNorth]

Hello Everyone,

I wish to present you more evidence that the government shutdowns, overall, are killing more people than the Coronavirus itself.

What I refer to now is an article from an establishment newspaper, which is making reference to a new report from the UK government. In short, the UK government has admitted, as far as the UK is concerned, that, from March 23- May 1, 16,000 non-Corona patients died because they were deprived of the care they needed for their non-Corona ailments.

The UK government during that time was almost wholly focused on corona patients. During the same time, 25,000 Britons are said to have died of the Coronavirus itself.

Keep in mind, what these figures don’t pay attention to is other deaths caused by the shutdowns, eg. suicides, substance abuse, heart attacks, stress, scores of people starving to death in the 3rd world, due to the shutdowns, etc. By the way, heart attacks are at least mentioned in the article.

My friends, the shutdowns kill more than the virus, and the government/mainstream media does not care about you. You, I, all of us regular people, mean nothing to the government/media complex. And we will never get a word of sincerity or truth from it.

Put all faith in Christ, Who truly does about about you, and offers only truth.

Link to the article I mentioned is below:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... virus.html