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[merendarrin]

I need advice from any and all as to how to deal with a young man who is dating my daughter. We were discussing women in the Bible, whether they should teach, etc. I told him that I thought that women can teach us things, that they have wisdom to offer. His reply was, "What? Here, eat this apple?" I was almost dumbstruck. What kind of teaching is this? (I know, but still taken aback.)

How would you address this viewpoint? I was thinking that though Eve made her dreadful mistake in the garden, that still did not stop God from using women all through the Old Testament. There are many examples of Godly women being used to teach all men in ways. I know that Proverbs 31 is a chapter men LOVE to hold onto, but because it was written by a woman, are they then going to toss it out? Very doubtful.

So, what would you say to a young man who has been taught to think this way. It's not so much the thought, but the heart of a person who thinks this way that bothers me. I do not wish my daughter to be subjected to the words of a man who think that women are not to be trusted and are apparently of little value. As I told my wife, when I think of her it automatically reminds me of God's love, how much he loves us. How else could a person see a woman? I don't get it...

Thanks for your advice, wisdom and scriptures..

GBU,
~Darrin

[mlg]

Well hey there my friend How I've missed you. Hope you and the wife are well.

Here's a study on women preaching. Think it will help you with this young man. http://www.christianityoasis.com/Keywor ... aching.htm

Glad to here from you.

luv ya

[deetu]

Hi Darren,
Boy, that is a tough one. Maybe you can use the teaching mlg suggested to mark in your Bible so this young man can see it in writing.

I read a book called, Who Said Women Can't Teach? One paragraph says:
The primary purpose for the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is power for ministry (Acts 1:8) Why would God baptize the women, including the mother of Jesus, in the Holy Spirit and then forbid them to exercise the indwelling Spirit's ministry? Any idea that God could not or would not speak through a woman simply because she is female contradicts the whole New Testament teaching of Jesus Christ and the apostle Paul. No person, male or female, is called by God on the basis of sex, but on the basis of commitment to Him. In Christ there is neither male nor female.

Maybe that is what the problem is...this young man has religion but not the Holy Spirit.
Hopefully, your daughter will recognize this and not continue the relationship. Or that this young man will wake up to the truth.
Praying for both according to God's will.

[comfy]

How about Abigail? 1 Samuel 25 > when David was getting ready to do something really wrong, she straightened him out. So, then he married her. Of course, David was a man who could listen to reason and be straightened out when he was wrong. If this boyfriend, if he is still her boyfriend, can not listen, this is all you need to know, I'd say.

I personally will make my point with someone, and not push it; but if it is about something I feel is very important and the person refuses, I just stop going further with the person. I will associate with the person, but the person will discover there is an "invisible wall" or line that I won't cross.

On the other hand . . . I'd say there are women who preach in order to make the point that they can, not because they are called. Ones can give themselves away, by how they are controlling and dominating. One who functions as a called person has this > "nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3)

Just because you can do something, this does not necessarily mean God wants you to. I see through 1 Timothy 3:1-10, that God calls couples with children whom they have brought up right, so they can be sample-examples of how God's love has people live for Jesus and relate with one another in real love. So, I can see we are missing something when it's just the man or the woman claiming to be "called" and the spouse is just sitting there. And ones who take it on themselves to be called can isolate themselves, get in various problems, then say they are being persecuted, neglected, not honored, etc., etc., etc. . . . like I have been able to do, *without* saying I'm called.

So . . . if she has bonded with this man . . . her own ways have made her able to get with him. This needs to be evaluated. I have had my way of getting interested in the wrong people. How come? What is it about me? I need to get with God more > only God can straighten me out for real.

[lizzie]

Hello merren

I guess my first instinct is to inquire as to how this young man treats your daughter now.

See we all go into things believing what we were taught. Not everything we are taught is the Truth of course, and God usually has a way of bringing the Truth to us if we are truly seeking Him in our lives.

This young man may have certain beliefs now, but LOVE can change everything Maybe, just maybe, if this young man is the one God has set apart for your daughter, if even for a time, a result of that may be to show him that some of his beliefs may have been distorted and bring Him to the truth.

Gods can use everything, good or bad, for His plan and purpose.

Perhaps, as per your last few lines, you may want to ask him how he believes Christ feels about His church. And then approach the subject that the bible states that husbands are supposed to love their wives in the same way. (eph 5:25) Might get him thinking.

Do your best to see that your daughter is firmly rooted in Truth and in Christ, and when the time comes for her to make decisions she will have a great foundation on which to draw from to do so.

GBU brother