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[notforgotten]

This was no deception. I've seen two demons and I've been possessed by one twice trying to sit on gods throne. The ones I have seen, God had removed their wings, put a horn on their heads (I call them bone heads) and made their voices sound of horror as not to deceive anyone. I've never found it neccessary to test any spirits. I'm speaking from experience that I realize most people don't have. I suffered dearly for this experience. Wisdom comes from our sufferings. I can easily discern an angel from a demon.

My Gaurdian only sounds female, he is neither male nor female and yes his body (spirit form) is likewise neither male nor female.

I would not advocate someone not talking to their Gaurdians. Afterall, they are with us and they are people too.

Also, I heard my mother, who is in heaven calling out my name, very much like an angel.

[Moriah_Ruth]

Not Forgotten,

To say that you never found it neccessary to test any spirits, would you say this before God when you stand before Him? What will you tell Him when He asks of you, "Why did you not test the spirits?" What answer will you give Him? I will definetly be putting you before God in prayer.

We are not to put our focus on angels. Our eyes are always to be on the Heavenly Father. When we start taking our eyes off of Him and focus our attention to angels than be sure your faith in God will definetly fall. No where are we commanded by God to focus our hearts on angels.

Also there is no scripture to back up that we become angels when we die. No where. It is amazing how some people can twist scripture to suit their belief system.

Genesis 1:26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;"

This verse is not talking about angels. It is talking about the Triune God. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Also you need to read the first chapter of John 1:1,2. This confirms Genesis 1:26.

As for the one who used the verse that little children become like angels in heaven.This is talking about the character of their angel.

And since when did God take wings off of demons and put horns on their heads? There is no verse for this either. You also state that you have been possessed twice by demons. How did you allow them to enter you? You must have left a door open somewhere. And to say that the angel has a female voice. Again very deceptive. If you are not careful you will again be possessed with demons 7 times worse than the first.

Also you state that you never found it neccessary to test any spirits. This is because you are refusing to. When you are refusing to than you are choosing to go against God's word, when it states we are to test all spirits. And when you are refusing to test the spirits then you are rebelling against God. Rebellion is the sin of witchcraft. When you start talking with angels and without God's authority than you are doing witchcraft. The bible so plainly show you this.

Motiah Ruth

[Maverick_Reborn]

Notforgotten, as long as you depend on God full heartedly, and it is His will for you to speak to this spirit, you will be ok. God will not judge you for speaking to this spirit, neither will He get mad at you if you seek to know your guardian. Just be careful, so that no harm will come to you, ok? I have seen demons before, and I know the reason why they torment me is because I allowed temptation to overtake me. This does not mean I wanted demons, for I was ignorant of the truth. If you have any dreams, write them down, because they may give you guidance on this issue, as long as the dream is from God. God may destroy the disguises of demons, for a reason. The first time I saw a demon, it was disguised, but the next one I saw was not. Some choose to diguise themselves, others do not. That being said, if this is an angel, you see this angel for a reason. Since they are messengers, speaking to them is not a bad idea.=)

[RockofAges]

Both of you thank you! Each of you provide both sides of the truth.

I am going to share with everyone a dream I had with angels in it. Though it is a dream that can be posted in dreams and vissions, this dream applies to this topic to show you both, that both of you are correct.

When I was 12 the first part of the dream I was running down a twisted stair case running as fast as I could away from a being made of electrical grey mass. The gravitational pull was very dense and painful from this evil being. I got to the bottom of the stair case there was a metal door I thought would be locked and that would be the end of me, but I opened it anyway and I passed through it slammed the door shut and I found myself in a dark room. I looked above the door I came through and there was a large movie screen that showed a motion picture of a female no color in it just black and white. It zeroed in on her lips, they were dry, pastey, parched, cracked, she was dying of thirst. She was partially trying to open her mouth to talk but couldnt. I woke up...

Years later I had part two of this dream continued I was in my 20's. It picked up where it left off, I found self in that same dark place waiting, then as I did, a new door but to my right swung wide open, and an ery darkness came from out of it, then two evil angels came approaching me, just as they took their first steps towards me with evil hallow glare in their eyes, they were seen from my view, only partial light and transparent darkness, something was missing in them but the evil in them was clearly seen and felt. Then to my left suddenly a door swung wide open and out came two remarkable angels shining bright like the sun. They gave off light as the light from behind their door they came from was brilliant unlike any light seen on this earth. Love and power beamed off of these two angels dressed in flawless white robes, fine golden belts, beautiful countance , raidant, and both had a sword on their side. Even the Angel that was nearest to me of the two good ones on my left made eye to eye contact and paused for a moment and clearly seen in his eyes was like he knew me and was delighted to see me but then gave me a puzzled look as I wondered what what the puzzled look for. IT was non judgemental look from the Angel as the other angel next to him kept a watchful eye on the two evil angels standing on my right at an arms length away from me. The evil angels sneered a little and suddenly both ofthe two good angels glared over aggressively at the two evil angels. I kept double taking both right and left angels trying to figure out what was going on studying their faces and details of their appearences and wondering why am I here and what are they doing here. Just as this was happening I couldnt help but know someone was behind me this entire time, I knew who it was, The Holy Spirit waiting and watching, showing me something important. I went to open my mouth to say something, and as I did, the most amazing thing happened, As I opened just merely opened my mouth all four angels, two to my left the good ones, and two to my right the evil ones, all four angels grabbed for their swords, when I in shock closed my mouth to see what would happen, they all took their hands off their swords. None of them uttered a word, just kept glaring at eachother waiting for what I would say.

[notforgotten]

Good story :-)

[believerbetty]

Wow! A story like that gives you goosebumps! Its funny how something made of purity and goodness, an angel, makes a much better impression than anything Satan can ever throw at us! I don't so much believe each of us are given a guardian angel, I believe God has sent guardian angelS (plural), and they are all around all of us Christians and there to help us through tough times and praise God along with us!

[notforgotten]

Hi Believerbetty, I don't know if you subscribe to Catholic thought, but here's what we believe from the big book, "Catechism of the Catholic Church."


The angels in the life of the Church

From its beginning until death, human life is surrounded by their watchful care and intercession. "Beside each believer stands an angel as protector and shepherd leading him to life." Already here on earth the Christian life shares by faith in the blessed company of angels and men united in God.

[notforgotten]

I just wanted to share another experience with my gaurdian angel. One day I was battling with the dead defending his honor. That evening I layed my head down to sleep and I felt a spirit laying their forehead up against mine. At the time, I didn't know it was him, so he stood up and ruffled his wings. It was a loving gesture that I will always remember. I love the angels.

[Blain]

I was enchanted reading the stories of angels and dreams, I finally met an angel. It was a breif visit and it was only to deliver a message. If i remember correctly there are a type of angels that are supposed to delever messages aren't there?

[notforgotten]

Yes, they are called messengers. Gabriel is a messenger. I'm happy to hear that you had a visit.

[Blain]

Thank you:D But aside from meeting an angel God Told me he will show me greater things.... what exactly does he inteed to show me? I wonder what it could be?

[notforgotten]

I'm use to seeing spirits, mostly the dead. Shortly after Jesus had found me I saw a spirits' profile with praying hands before my eyes. At the time, I thought that it was the dead and that they had the right idea by praying. A few days later I saw the same vision and thought the same thing. Again a few days goes by and I saw it, his whole spirit form, wings and all with praying hands and he began being dressed in white, starting with his wings, before he flew away. He has a beautiful slim figure - god had created his spirit form perfect for flight.

When I had seen his hands closely the first two times, I had seen them so clearly that I could honestly say that he probably has fingerprints just like ours.

About a week goes by and I heard his beautiful voice calling out my name. His voice is much more beautiful than any human voice. Today, I try to talk to her every chance I get.

John 20:12 And she saw two angels in white sitting, one at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.