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A New Apostles' Creed?

Postby saint701 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:33 pm

We have another wonderful sunny day to enjoy, albeit a tad too hot for some unfortunately. Speaking of heat, of late we have been focusing our magnifying glass on the three most notable creeds in Christian history, The Apostle's Creed, The Creed of Constantinople, and the Nicene Creed. These three creeds in one form or another are the foundational doctrines adhered to by Catholics and Protestants alike, the most widely accepted being the creed penned around 600 A.D.

Today that creed, still called the Apostle's Creed even though they had no part in the writing of it, continues to be the foundational doctrine of Evangelicals across the nation including many seminaries such as Covenant here in St. Louis. We analyzed some of the doctrine's fallacious points in one article, and in another we pointed out how fallacious Christian doctrines have robbed the core of the church, its parishioners, of their authority to become true Disciples of Christ and also go out into the world and call lost souls out of darkness into the marvelous light of glory as the sons of God. We concluded that this practice of raising up drones to sit in seats each Sunday kept the brighter minds in power to pad their own bank accounts, and we labeled that fallacious practice by Church authorities from 300 A.D. through the present time as GREED.

This has brought us to the question we shall consider today. Isn’t it about time that Evangelical, Catholic, Charismatic, and Pentecostals recognize the need for a more complete Christian Creed that re-establishes the Holy Spirit as the Executive Officer of our Lord's church, sent to us by our Lord to lead us in our actions? (Those led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God). Isn’t it about time that Jesus be portrayed as the head of His body, (the church), here and in the heavenlies, making Him our Commanding Officer? We believe so.

Isn't it about time the religious drones of the Christian masses take salvation seriously and understand that such comes from God to us through our Lord, (His Word), by the working of the Holy Spirit as He wills and through men and women God has chosen to anoint with His Spirit to fill offices under His command? Having a high intelligence quotient and exhaulted degrees in academia does not open the eyes of one's understanding and reveal knowledge about God and what He has called us to. Isn't it time we look past the know it alls that of truth know nothing, to the Spirit of God sent to us to lead and guide us according to the will of our Lord? We believe so.

Following is the contemporary version of the Apostle’s Creed generally in use today. Our problem with the creed below is the over-use of generalizations, too much past tense, and a complete lack of gospel of God understanding. Yes, Jesus Christ was born of a virgin and the only begotten son of God until He passed away on the Cross of Calvary. Afterward however, when the day of His resurrection came, He became the first born Son of God from the dead, a new creation of God, the first born of a new species of man, a new species that would have the love nature and spiritual life of the resurrected Jesus Christ within them. (Christ in you, the hope of glory).Now He is no longer God’s only begotten Son, but the first born Son of God from the dead, the progenitor of a new race of man bearing His name Jesus and called The Sons of God. The emphasis of the Apostolic, Nicene, Constantinople and the so called Apostle’s creed of our day should not have been about any other thing in the past but our death in Christ on the Cross of Calvary and our resurrection from the dead in Him. The rest of the creed should have been penned in the present and future declaring our rebirth in Christ Jesus through our faith in Him, our calling into His life as His brothers and into the Household of God Almighty as His sons. 1John.3[1] Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of GodHeb.2[10] For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.Rom.8 [14] For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
[15] For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
[16] The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
[17] And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

Contemporary Version of the Apostle’s Creed

I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
the Creator of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:

Who was conceived of the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried.

He descended into hell.

On the third day He arose again from the dead.

He ascended into heaven
and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty,
whence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting.

First and foremost a new Christian Creed would establish Jesus Christ as the head of a thriving colony of a new species called and given power to become like Sons of God made of the Spirit of our Lord on Earth and in Heaven. This colony would be governed by the Holy Spirit who has been sent to us to help, lead, guide, and preside over God’s new creation. This new creed would establish that it is God by the Holy Spirit, not man, that selects the officials of His church and it is God that equips His officers by the working of His Spirit anointing them within and upon according to the will of our Lord. All in the body of Christ would understand that those called to glory would develop in stages in spirit and in soul similar to human beings that develop in stages physically and mentally. It would be understood that the Holy Spirit equips each son called into glory with a gift or gifts to benefit the church and be signs and wonders to the world. It would be understood that those of God reaching maturity in Christ would have their heart saturated with the love of God for all, and have an intimate relationship with the Father knowing that His essence and entire being is that of love. There would not be any denominations. Grace would abound to all through the love of Christ who gave Himself for us.

1Cor.12

[28] And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

Acts.13

[2] As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said,Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.

This same Spirit would also equip us to continue the work our Lord commanded us to do, go into the entire world and make disciples of all nations.

1Cor.12[4] Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
[5] And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
[6] And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
[7] But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
[8] For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
[9] To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
[10] To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
[11] But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
[12] For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
[13] For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
[14] For the body is not one member, but many.

Our primary objective as the Sons of God would be to exhibit the qualities inherent in the nature of God, i.e., 1Cor.13, the love of God. It would be understood that such would not come of our own doing, but the work of the Holy Spirit within us.

4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. 8 Love never fails.

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Love, in Christ Jesus, saint 701.
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Re: A New Apostles' Creed?

Postby saint701 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:52 pm

Hello All,

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In obedience to the leading of the Spirit of God, I'm bringing this message forward into the present for His purpose, whatever that may be.

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